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Mo Salah 2025/26 Season

Your premise is unsophisticated bullshit thinking though and you seem to have difficulty in imagining any different scenarios in their variables and nuanced context.
I have no reason to believe how asking for Salah to be replaced on the eve of a big game is a good idea in any shape or form. You start your best players, that's about it. If that's "unsophisticated bullshit" so be it. I really have nothing else to add to your scenarios.
 
It's always been the compromise with Mo. He has the class to affect the attacking play in the decisive moments better than any other player in the team, but he isn't a pressing, tough-tackling monster off the ball. That's always been the case, always will be, and the difference between winning and losing is often about how you make those compromises and accommodate them.
The big difference so far this season, as others have commented above, is that he isn't getting as much of the ball. He's holding his position out right while the play is graduating more to the left, perhaps because the team is trying to bring Wirtz into play more until he pops his cherry.
Mo either needs to (be instructed to) tuck inside a bit more so he can get more of the ball (but then his options and angles will be more limited), or else we need to go back to switching play more and giving him more of the ball (for which we need Mac back in the side, and an acceptance that if the opposing left back is wise to it then it'll be hit and miss, but the hit might just win us the game).
So yeah, I agree with the criticism that he is (more of) a passenger at the moment, but that's the nature of his game, so we either accommodate him more or give his minutes to someone who will get stuck in more - which probably means Jones plays, even when Mac is fit, and I'm sure everyone can get behind that.
 
I have no reason to believe how asking for Salah to be replaced on the eve of a big game is a good idea in any shape or form. You start your best players, that's about it. If that's "unsophisticated bullshit" so be it. I really have nothing else to add to your scenarios.
Way to miss the point again…just read the fucking post…the unsophisticated bullshit thinking is your flat premise that if Salah hasn’t played we’d definitely only have two points right now. If you can’t see how ridiculous that is then I give up… let’s just leave it…
 
Way to miss the point again…just read the fucking post…the unsophisticated bullshit thinking is your flat premise that if Salah hasn’t played we’d definitely only have two points right now. If you can’t see how ridiculous that is then I give up… let’s just leave it…
Well my point still stands RE your scenarios. You just pick on whatever you are unhappy while missing the main point. I guess that's more convenient.

I don't see how there is any other way but to leave it.
 
Every player on the pitch contributes to attacking and defending nowadays in some form or another.

Mo gets special treatment based on his record. Nobody else should.
To paraphrase Klopp, everyone needs to contribute to the press or it will all fail.

Leaving one man spare means they can pass through it.
 
To paraphrase Klopp, everyone needs to contribute to the press or it will all fail.

Leaving one man spare means they can pass through it.

To be fair, it’s not as if Mo is just standing around doing nothing.

He does press, he just doesn’t lead the press and our press is a little less intensive under Slot.

He does track back - just not all the time, which is fine because otherwise we’d end up being a low block side with little forward options - as it happen him staying forward is one of our most effect out balls.

They obviously aren’t central parts of his game, but to act like he’s Haalandesque is doing very little else for the team than scoring is just bizarre.

Also - I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening if they think his contribution will be easily replicated - we’ll see that when his replacement starts returning 12 goals and 6 assists a season - we’re clearly preparing for life without him by getting the goals and assists centrally from Isak/Ekitike and Wirtz.
 
I’d also probably point out that I don’t think Salah bears responsibility for any goal we’ve leaked this season.
 
That's part and parcel of playing against a well drilled team, our attacking players take risks and will lose the ball from time to time and they break. It happens.

I think we had just about sufficient cover but Konate was being abit shit.

Remember the days under Klopp when it was Virg versus 3 attackers running at him and he sorted it out?
 
The sloppy pass for Bournemouth’s second.
Wasn’t down to one man but partly yes but then do you really want to stop attackers trying to make something happen because we may lose the ball 90yrds up the pitch?. Watch the break, we had 2 players in our own half to counter the break.
 
It wasn’t a difficult pass, just sloppy. If it was a difficult pass he was trying he’d get more of a, errrrr, pass. It was simple, across their box into no danger for them pass. Hardly aimed for someone in the six yard box.

Which then put us on the back foot and our CBs monged out on.
 
It wasn’t a difficult pass, just sloppy. If it was a difficult pass he was trying he’d get more of a, errrrr, pass. It was simple, across their box into no danger for them pass. Hardly aimed for someone in the six yard box.

Which then put us on the back foot and our CBs monged out on.
He pulled it back I think but point is, do you really expect to lose a goal if you concede a ball 90yrds from your own goal?
 
Expect, no but that’s exactly what happened. I expect a person who is on 400k a week to do better at simple things. Someone who is lauded with great vision to see how many we had forward and really try not to mess up that pass.
 
Gosh, the 400k thing. Doesn’t mean perfection. Doesn’t give the rest of players in the team on 200k a pass or the ones after a big contract renewal who can’t make a tackle. Considering he carried the team at times last season, personally he was given that 380k or so by our management due to his own worth and to LFC presumably. That 400k gets is POY x2 and top assists/scorer at LFC, not too shabby.
 
I agree with you when you
Salah should accepted $395k a week so the odd mistake was acceptable.
I don't disagree with you as you argue that just because he is on £400K per week, doesn't mean we should have perfection every single week from him. But at the same time, in another thread, you are arguing that because Wirtz cost £116M he should be perfect right from day one

Do you see a teensy little contradiction there?
 
I agree with you when you

I don't disagree with you as you argue that just because he is on £400K per week, doesn't mean we should have perfection every single week from him. But at the same time, in another thread, you are arguing that because Wirtz cost £116M he should be perfect right from day one

Do you see a teensy little contradiction there?
When did I say he needs to be perfect? He needs to contribute to us winning games and so far he’s contributed sweet fuck all. An assist or a goal against Arsenal will do him the world of good.
 
Every player on the pitch contributes to attacking and defending nowadays in some form or another.

Mo gets special treatment based on his record. Nobody else should.
However, we won the PL last season largely thanks to Slot keeping Salah high up. We won our first two games, with the late goals involving Salah. Attackers lose the ball thats why we have MFs and Defenders there to pick up the slack.
Making Salah do more of the donkey work in defending will lower his productivity
 
When did I say he needs to be perfect? He needs to contribute to us winning games and so far he’s contributed sweet fuck all. An assist or a goal against Arsenal will do him the world of good.
Look at the list of most expensive midfielders in history and name the ones that hit the ground running within two games. Maybe Bellingham?

Just give it a few more games. Right now the argument is boring/annoying, because it is silly.
 
Look at the list of most expensive midfielders in history and name the ones that hit the ground running within two games. Maybe Bellingham?

Just give it a few more games. Right now the argument is boring/annoying, because it is silly.
How many of that list ever got running?
 
There were people complaining about Mac Allister when he was signed - not strong or fast enough.

Robbo and Fabinho took time to settle.

Bobby, though largely BRodgers fault was poor initially.

Didn’t Suarez take a bit of time to settle properly too?
 
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