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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1315622#msg1315622 date=1302794204]
The other aspect of it is not everyone can be the star of the show, those stars need a supporting cast who aren't going try to overplay their position by attempting to make their own chances rather than chances for our big money stars.
We're clearly not going to be asking Downing to lead the team, were going to ask him to get down the wing and stick decent crosses in for Carroll. By all accounts that's a job he's capable of doing.
Whereas signing Hazard adds a potentially better player to the mix I don't think he'll have as much of a benefit for Carroll
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For me signing Downing would be disappointing. I see some of the same people who said give Roy a chance last year say "he'll be steady hands", or "you can't have all great players", or "don't judge him yet", or you "need a supporting cast". or "he'll be a squaddy" - well first let's sign some high quality talent and then I'll jump for joy when Downing is linked as back-up.
Of course we can't afford 11-15 world beaters in every position, and we need grafters and the less talented reliables, but Downing would be a terrible statement of intent, at this point unless we're going to also sign another high caliber winger or flair player. By statement of intent, I mean we're signing more plodders - to continue as before.
And if you want a supporting cast Rosco, is it not better to bring through some of the talented youth for that role? Don't we supposedly have a great crop of players on the way?
Why sign the Downings of the world? blood more young lads, and at least you could sell on a young player who didn't make the grade to a Blackburn or a Wigan. With a Downing, you'd be stuck with high wages and a difficult sale.
The other aspect of it is not everyone can be the star of the show, those stars need a supporting cast who aren't going try to overplay their position by attempting to make their own chances rather than chances for our big money stars.
We're clearly not going to be asking Downing to lead the team, were going to ask him to get down the wing and stick decent crosses in for Carroll. By all accounts that's a job he's capable of doing.
Whereas signing Hazard adds a potentially better player to the mix I don't think he'll have as much of a benefit for Carroll
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For me signing Downing would be disappointing. I see some of the same people who said give Roy a chance last year say "he'll be steady hands", or "you can't have all great players", or "don't judge him yet", or you "need a supporting cast". or "he'll be a squaddy" - well first let's sign some high quality talent and then I'll jump for joy when Downing is linked as back-up.
Of course we can't afford 11-15 world beaters in every position, and we need grafters and the less talented reliables, but Downing would be a terrible statement of intent, at this point unless we're going to also sign another high caliber winger or flair player. By statement of intent, I mean we're signing more plodders - to continue as before.
And if you want a supporting cast Rosco, is it not better to bring through some of the talented youth for that role? Don't we supposedly have a great crop of players on the way?
Why sign the Downings of the world? blood more young lads, and at least you could sell on a young player who didn't make the grade to a Blackburn or a Wigan. With a Downing, you'd be stuck with high wages and a difficult sale.
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1315622#msg1315622 date=1302794204]
The other aspect of it is not everyone can be the star of the show, those stars need a supporting cast who aren't going try to overplay their position by attempting to make their own chances rather than chances for our big money stars.
We're clearly not going to be asking Downing to lead the team, were going to ask him to get down the wing and stick decent crosses in for Carroll. By all accounts that's a job he's capable of doing.
Whereas signing Hazard adds a potentially better player to the mix I don't think he'll have as much of a benefit for Carroll
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I see some of the same people who said give Roy a chance last year say "he'll be steady hands", or "you can't have all great players", or "don't judge him yet", or you "need a supporting cast". or "he'll be a squaddy" - well first let's sign some high quality talent and then I'll jump for joy when Downing is linked as back-up.
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I said from the word go Hodgson was a dreary terrible appointment. I think Downing would be a very good addition.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=44931.msg1315622#msg1315622 date=1302794204]
The other aspect of it is not everyone can be the star of the show, those stars need a supporting cast who aren't going try to overplay their position by attempting to make their own chances rather than chances for our big money stars.
We're clearly not going to be asking Downing to lead the team, were going to ask him to get down the wing and stick decent crosses in for Carroll. By all accounts that's a job he's capable of doing.
Whereas signing Hazard adds a potentially better player to the mix I don't think he'll have as much of a benefit for Carroll
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I see some of the same people who said give Roy a chance last year say "he'll be steady hands", or "you can't have all great players", or "don't judge him yet", or you "need a supporting cast". or "he'll be a squaddy" - well first let's sign some high quality talent and then I'll jump for joy when Downing is linked as back-up.
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I said from the word go Hodgson was a dreary terrible appointment. I think Downing would be a very good addition.
I hear you Doc, and you could be right, personally, I think we need to raise our expectations a little. I don't see Arsenal, Chelsea, Citeh, Spurs, United making these kind of signings. He reminds of a Bolo Zenden signing. Solid, reliable, won't hurt you, but won't win you games with a flash of brilliance. We need that flash...
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Zenden and Downing are two very very different players.
Downing can do a very good job for us on the left. He's got pace, decent ability, can play on the right and left and has an excellent cross on him.
Coming into his prime now at 26 and has 6 goals and 8 assists for a struggeling Villa this season.
I think he would be an excellent signing. Its all about getting the right players, finding the right mix and balance.
I trust Kenny.
Downing can do a very good job for us on the left. He's got pace, decent ability, can play on the right and left and has an excellent cross on him.
Coming into his prime now at 26 and has 6 goals and 8 assists for a struggeling Villa this season.
I think he would be an excellent signing. Its all about getting the right players, finding the right mix and balance.
I trust Kenny.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=44931.msg1315733#msg1315733 date=1302808367]
Zenden and Downing are two very very different players.
Downing can do a very good job for us on the left. He's got pace, decent ability, can play on the right and left and has an excellent cross on him.
Coming into his prime now at 26 and has 6 goals and 8 assists for a struggeling Villa this season.
I think he would be an excellent signing. Its all about getting the right players, finding the right mix and balance.
I trust Kenny.
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I do too. Would just love a flier on the wing for once.
Zenden and Downing are two very very different players.
Downing can do a very good job for us on the left. He's got pace, decent ability, can play on the right and left and has an excellent cross on him.
Coming into his prime now at 26 and has 6 goals and 8 assists for a struggeling Villa this season.
I think he would be an excellent signing. Its all about getting the right players, finding the right mix and balance.
I trust Kenny.
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I do too. Would just love a flier on the wing for once.
How's Babelinho doing btw? Anyone know?
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=44931.msg1315750#msg1315750 date=1302810389]
How's Babelinho doing btw? Anyone know?
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Showing a lot of promise apparently. One for the future
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He'd be a star if he played week in week out but he always gets dropped after he scores
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=44931.msg1315750#msg1315750 date=1302810389]
How's Babelinho doing btw? Anyone know?
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Showing a lot of promise apparently. One for the future
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He'd be a star if he played week in week out but he always gets dropped after he scores
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44931.msg1315753#msg1315753 date=1302810450]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=44931.msg1315750#msg1315750 date=1302810389]
How's Babelinho doing btw? Anyone know?
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Showing a lot of promise apparently. One for the future
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He'd be a star if he played week in week out but he always gets dropped after he scores
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Scored a couple of days ago.
ARD-Sportschau: 9.04.11 (HD) Freiburg vs Hoffenheim 3-2
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44931.msg1315753#msg1315753 date=1302810450]
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=44931.msg1315750#msg1315750 date=1302810389]
How's Babelinho doing btw? Anyone know?
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Showing a lot of promise apparently. One for the future
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He'd be a star if he played week in week out but he always gets dropped after he scores
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Scored a couple of days ago.
ARD-Sportschau: 9.04.11 (HD) Freiburg vs Hoffenheim 3-2
Looks like the Cisse clan has a lock on the uncanny ability to stray offside.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=44931.msg1346979#msg1346979 date=1307704168]
I really don't want Downing
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romantically or profesionally?
I really don't want Downing
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romantically or profesionally?
surprised downing has more dribbles
ive come round to downing, ive decided to be positive about who we get, we woulda finished at least fourth last season if it wasnt for woy, so these small improvements will at least get us back into the champions league, when we can start gettin some big names in the mould of neymar/aguero etc, by then the youth will have come on a lot and the players that may be seen as 'average' will be great squad players
ive come round to downing, ive decided to be positive about who we get, we woulda finished at least fourth last season if it wasnt for woy, so these small improvements will at least get us back into the champions league, when we can start gettin some big names in the mould of neymar/aguero etc, by then the youth will have come on a lot and the players that may be seen as 'average' will be great squad players
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Squiggles
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I've been impressed with Downing this year.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1346998#msg1346998 date=1307704813]
I've been impressed with Downing this year.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
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Won't be that necessary if Clichy joins.
I've been impressed with Downing this year.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
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Won't be that necessary if Clichy joins.
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Squiggles
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True.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1346998#msg1346998 date=1307704813]
I've been impressed with Downing this year.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
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Won't be that necessary if Clichy joins.
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Can he ( Downing) defend?
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=44931.msg1346998#msg1346998 date=1307704813]
I've been impressed with Downing this year.
He's a smart footballer who is very underrated. The problem with him is he lacks the pace outwide which I think we need.
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Won't be that necessary if Clichy joins.
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Can he ( Downing) defend?
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