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Maybe....1 more Italian?

I'm not saying I'm not excited about this, but Quansah was meant to be this guy, and we were quite excited about him. This guy has about the same amount of data suggesting he's the next big thing. We are just spinning the wheel again, with the money we got from him.

I like Quansah, but this lad's quality looks staggeringly obvious and he looks a much more perfect fit for taking the reigns from VVD. It's not spinning the wheel, his reputation is already staggeringly good. I get the fees are similar, but Quansah's fee benefited from the fact he played for us, we just won the league and he had a great Summer with England.
 
Worth noting that the same age Quansah was getting loaned out to Tranmere Rovers, whereas Leoni is playing in Serie A. Developing that frame and strength early, alongside everything else, has given him the platform to break through. liked and rated Quansah, and he is a massive success story for the academy, but this lad already looks more in line with what Slot wants and expects. I also think there's a danger of lumping in young players all together. There are three and a bit years between them, which is a huge amount of time as footballers develop.

Quansah had kinda of finished his development run with the club and wasn't what the coach needed. This guy is just getting started, but hopefully, he's also ready to play a role at this level. We need it.
 
Here's the thing. they've researched the kid, he will 1-2 mistakes in him, its how he handles it. He has VVD as his mentor, ,the best in the world . We are also getting Guehi (hopefully).
 
Yes. That is interesting. An 18 year old, big, dominant Italian centreback. That is an interesting prospect. When one thinks of great Italian centrebacks, there are no examples of BIG and PHYSICALLY DOMINANT Italian centrebacks. Instead, one can think of smallish but smart and savvy Italian centrebacks like Franco Baresi and Fabio Cannavaro.

That Leoni kid seems like he could be cut from a different sort of a cloth.

ps "Italian" should generally denote "knows how to play football" meaning that "his technique is good." Can pass and can potentially "think too." That is the hope at least.
 
Worth noting that the same age Quansah was getting loaned out to Tranmere Rovers, whereas Leoni is playing in Serie A. Developing that frame and strength early, alongside everything else, has given him the platform to break through. liked and rated Quansah, and he is a massive success story for the academy, but this lad already looks more in line with what Slot wants and expects. I also think there's a danger of lumping in young players all together. There are three and a bit years between them, which is a huge amount of time as footballers develop.

Quansah had kinda of finished his development run with the club and wasn't what the coach needed. This guy is just getting started, but hopefully, he's also ready to play a role at this level. We need it.
Yes. Quansah comes to mind.
 
There were number of concerns with Quansah prior to Slot and Ipswich game. In
some big moments during Klopp’s final season he was found wanting including against United where his knack of being really slow on the ball and being very easy to press was obvious. Quiet a few times focussed on this in 2nd half of the season. I thought he deserved a chance to progress last season but he just couldn’t take, he had as good as any in at a top club. No point did I though think, he was Virgil in waiting. Virgil was Rolls Royce defender from the off even when playing for smaller clubs.
 

Liverpool believe they have pulled off an almighty coup. In fact, they think they are signing the best young defender on the market.

Parma wanted £35million for Giovanni Leoni but a deal has been done for around £25.8m
, with the player jetting in for a medical to become a much-needed addition to what was becoming a centre back department lacking in depth.

The 18-year-old will challenge the likes of Virgil van Dijk, Ibrahima Konate the currently injured Joe Gomez, and there is huge excitement at the Premier League champions. Confidential has spoken to sources both on Merseyside and in Italy to try to paint a picture on what the Premier League champions are getting for their money.

‘He's a commanding defender, with a strong physique,’ Serie A expert Eleonora Trotta, who has watched Leoni closely, tells us. ‘He has good technique. Good with his feet and in setting up the game. Someone here compared him to Alessandro Nesta.

'The fee is not a small sum. He has very few appearances in Serie A (17, all last season for Parma), but being very young he can certainly explode. No one in Italy has ever considered spending more than €25m (£21.5m) on him so we will see if that becomes a regret.

‘Of course, the club with the biggest regret is Inter, who, a year ago, could have bought him for €7m (£6m). Cristian Chivu was undoubtedly instrumental in his career. We're talking about a serious, mature, and very self-aware young man.

‘I know his yes to Liverpool was immediate: he really wanted to experience England.’


Chivu, the legendary former Inter Milan centre back and 2010 Treble winner, was Leoni's boss for all of four months at the end of last season, but made a huge impact in keeping them up in Serie A. So much so that Champions League finalists Inter poached him when Simone Inzaghi left for Saudi Arabia this summer.

The glowing references keep coming for Leoni, and the next one does not get much better. Here's one of the godfathers of Italian football, the legendary AC Milan manager Arrigo Sacchi, who wrote in Gazzetta dello Sport yesterday: ‘I am convinced he’ll be the lynchpin of the Azzurri defence for a long time.

‘Some, regarding a possible transfer to Liverpool, object that this young man has only made 17 Serie A appearances so far. Aren’t those few? No, I reply. Not few, because on those occasions Leoni has demonstrated the qualities needed to go far.

‘If someone is good, if someone has their head in the right place, it’s immediately obvious. A person can have 200 Serie A games under their belts and still not possess the qualities Leoni displayed in his first season as an adult. Talent knows no age.’


Another icon of calcio, Andrea Pirlo, who coached Leoni as a kid at Sampdoria, said last year: ‘If someone had doubts about starting him from the first minute, I had none. I see him every day in training. He played as a mature youngster, he will become a strong footballer.'

Leoni is 6ft 5in but fast, adept in possession and can battle attackers like he has years of experience. When studying footage of him, Daily Mail Sport watched the teenager against Napoli, the eventual Scudetto winners last season.

He was marking Romelu Lukaku and bullied the 32-year-old like he was 14 years his senior, not the other way around. He covered his front post well, dominated in the air and made some important recovery runs in the 0-0 draw, which was a great result for relegation-threatened Parma.

Sources in Italy say he is in line to be fast-tracked to the national team senior squad - he has yet to play for the Under 21s.

And speaking of the national team, he was born five months after the Azzurri won the 2006 World Cup - so he has never, somehow, seen them play a knockout match in the biggest tournament of all. With Leoni at the back, that could soon change.


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[James Pearce] Liverpool have reached an agreement with Parma to sign defender Giovanni Leoni. ... fee in the region of £26million (€30m) plus add-ons for the 18-year-old Italian youth international.
 
Just so you all know if he turns shit I will be here to say told you all, he’s Italian. If he’s boss then I’ll be saying we got him young enough to knock all the Italian out of him.

This is your Dreamie moment!!!
 
we all wish q had worked out better but as was said before

- didn’t take chance to make himself indispensable
- slot doesn’t rate
- might not have been the brightest bulb
- had the online lady problems…

Plus we upgraded and made 8 mill? Win!

What about this lad. 6 foot 5? Mongo material right there!
 
we all wish q had worked out better but as was said before

- didn’t take chance to make himself indispensable
- slot doesn’t rate
- might not have been the brightest bulb
- had the online lady problems…

Plus we upgraded and made 8 mill? Win!

What about this lad. 6 foot 5? Mongo material right there!


I wouldn’t rule out us exercising that buyback clause in 2 years time if he excels in Germany and Virgil’s time comes to an end.
 
'The fee is not a small sum. He has very few appearances in Serie A (17, all last season for Parma), but being very young he can certainly explode. No one in Italy has ever considered spending more than €25m (£21.5m) on him so we will see if that becomes a regret.

‘Of course, the club with the biggest regret is Inter, who, a year ago, could have bought him for €7m (£6m).
The best part here is that he is 18 and by the time he turns 22 he will almost certainly be worth more. At 22, Quansah was sold for £30m potentially going to £35m to a German outlet. Absent major injuries, at the very minimum the same will easily be accomplished with Leoni. A great deal of business.*

* IF AND UNLESS Leoni has no other problems in background like with injuries. I note this just because we are dealing with Italians. Not at all many great Italian prospects are shipped overseas. And when such stuff happens it also often happens because of hidden injury problems. Chiesa and Aquilani spring to mind. Drug and doping abuse is also very prevalent in Seria A but not equally in all clubs. Here's to hoping that after Chiesa the FSG have learned a thing or two about that, about Parma, etc...

One also wonders if Chiesa will be sent to Parma as part of the same deal. Or elsewhere. ...now that Liverpool has done nothing but nurse him back to apparent fitness...
 
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Probably my best attempt.

Call him, call him by his name, oh
Call him by his number, he'll hit the ball through it
He'll be defending the way he does it
And yet you try to forget who he really is
Don't tell me, I know he is the best
He is not the same as all the rest
He is the one and Leoni
Nobody I'd rather he be
He is the one and Leoni
You can't take that away from him
 
People tend to disregard that Chiesa is a big-moment player. That was a big goal in a big moment. 3 points in the opening game of the season. Chiesa also has fantastic technique. He's also unlike all other forwards we have.
 
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