Misconceptions.

[5Times]

So there's the obvious ones like Camara etc..

But who have you thought was a nailed on success after a few games? For me it's:

Josemi: Spanish Carra..blasphemy now as it seems, he was awesome initially.
Warnock? Maxi? Etc

Also who do you think may fall under this category in the future? Way too early to say, but what's the harm in speculation.

 

[Holle]

'Speedy' Gonzalez.

The way this lad was hyped was almost unreal.

Until he actually played.

 

[Judge Jules]

Disagreeing with a particular signing is one thing (most of us thought from the start that Voronin and Degen, for example, were going to fail) but actually trying to pick players who might fall away after a good start seems a bit of a pity TBH.

As far as previous "misconceptions" are concerned, for me it's hard to look past Kewell. I was chuffed to monkeys when we signed him. Seems incredible to think back on it now.

 

[Y1]

Joe Coe and potentially Andy Carroll.

edit:

add Robbie Keane

 

[Stulikesdrums]

Josemi was skinned for pace by Pederson in his second league game away at Bolton. He was so shit.

Kewell is a great shout. I'll throw Babel's name into the ring too. Big fee, great rep and looked to be good in his first few games. But he was braindead and offered fuck all from the start and his impact as a sub eventually disappeared too.

 

[dee]

Kvarme

Collymore

Baros

 

[Stulikesdrums]

Collymore is a bit harsh.

 

[Judge Jules]

TBF Collymore and Robbie were the dog's that first season together.

 

[dee]

[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45904.msg1357025#msg1357025 date=1309334745]
TBF Collymore and Robbie were the dog's that first season together.
[/quote]

Exactly and then he went shit. That WAS the question wasn't it?

Started good - went shit

 

[Judge Jules]

Fair point, although all the examples in the original post proved to be disappointments fairly quickly after their debuts whereas Collymore took a lot longer.

 

[5Times]

That was the point, I said first few games. To save confusion we shall say a season?
Another example is Heskey.

 

[Sunny]

El Hadji Diouf

 

[The Slugmonster]

Morientes.....him having played so well for Monaco and spearheading their champions league final appearance I thought he'd be ace for us as well.....turns out we didnt need him to go one better though as he watched on cup tied from the sideline 8)

 

[Judge Jules]

Three good shouts there. Diouf was one of the immediate variety. Heskey on the other hand was unplayable that first season in Owen's absence. It wasn't until both his club and his international managers made him become Owen's bag-carrier that his performances began to slide. Morientes was a real shame - good footballer and team man, desperate to do well for us but never, ever going to be suited here.

 

[Buddha]

Although he's still an irrational favourite of mine, Baros suffered a steady decline in ny estimations.

 

[Judge Jules]

Did his bit in Istanbul though.

 

[barrymac20]

I would say Diouf. Scored two in his first match!

 

[Akakabooto]

Paddy Berger. One of my favorites but always thought he could have been so much more.

 

[Richey]

I thought Bellamy would do very well for us.

Also expected a lot more from Litmanen when we signed him

 

[Fabio]

Insua. Some great appearances when he broke on to the scene. Then shite

 

[Modo]

[quote author=Dee link=topic=45904.msg1357031#msg1357031 date=1309335870]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45904.msg1357025#msg1357025 date=1309334745]
TBF Collymore and Robbie were the dog's that first season together.
[/quote]

Exactly and then he went shit. That WAS the question wasn't it?

Started good - went shit
[/quote]
To my recollection it never really went to shit. We had an up and coming striker named M. Owen on our books who threatened to leave if he did get more opportunities.
Collymore was starting to act mental behind the scenes as well. We sold him at his peak. His performances hadnt dipped.

 

[Judge Jules]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=45904.msg1357075#msg1357075 date=1309338678]
I thought Bellamy would do very well for us.

Also expected a lot more from Litmanen when we signed him
[/quote]

Same here, but I doubt it was all his fault that it didn't happen.

 

[Richey]

I don't think Owen was threatening to leave. He was only 17 at the time.

Collymore was very good in his first season but not as good in his second.

 

[5Times]

Pongolle too... Not his first start but that game against Leeds(2goals) was one of his first. Came on as a sub I believe.

 

[grjt]

[quote author=Richey link=topic=45904.msg1357090#msg1357090 date=1309340112]
I don't think Owen was threatening to leave. He was only 17 at the time.

Collymore was very good in his first season but not as good in his second.
[/quote]

Modo in bullshitting shocker?

Youre right Richey, Owen was simply a great option (no threats of looking to leave); Collymore had been excellent, but had refused to move up from the midlands, and had an attitude that stank - plus Villa offered us 6m for the mentalist wife beater.

 

[refugee]

Stephen Wright, and to a lesser extent David Thompson

 

[Richey]

[quote author=refugee link=topic=45904.msg1357129#msg1357129 date=1309342306]
Stephen Wright, and to a lesser extent David Thompson
[/quote]

I'd have put it the other way round. I never thought Wright was very good at all but Thompson looked like he was going to be a great little player

 

[Judge Jules]

I thought Wright was OK. He never recovered from being thought a lesser player than Papa Smurf by our management at the time.

 

[5Times]

[quote author=refugee link=topic=45904.msg1357129#msg1357129 date=1309342306]
Stephen Wright, and to a lesser extent David Thompson
[/quote]

Thompson's a great shout. Bit of a long shot(and I know I could find out on google, couldn't be arsed) but anyone remember that game against Sheffield wednesday when him and Gerrard scored?
Thought they were both going to be stars.

 

[Woland]

Didn't Bruno Cheyrou do an ok impersonation of a footballer for a couple of months?