Deal for Gael Clichy rumoured
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Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45686.msg1347046#msg1347046 date=1307708210]
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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Totally disagree.
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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Totally disagree.
[quote author=Binny link=topic=45686.msg1347000#msg1347000 date=1307704872]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=45686.msg1346991#msg1346991 date=1307704591]
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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well, i for one can definitely see that working very efficiently indeed without causing any friction or resentment whatsoever.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45686.msg1346986#msg1346986 date=1307704479]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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well, i for one can definitely see that working very efficiently indeed without causing any friction or resentment whatsoever.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45686.msg1347046#msg1347046 date=1307708210]
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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You could be right Ryan and having never seen Clichy play in a "solid" back 4 I can't know for sure that he'd be solid defensively but I've seen enough to convince me that for £5m it would be worth the risk and I'd be quietly confident he would prove me right.
There's a dearth of decent left backs around at the moment and if we're not going to get Coentrao or Clichy I'd rather take a chance on Aurelio's fitness and Robinson because I'm not convinced by Izaguirre, Enrique et al.
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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You could be right Ryan and having never seen Clichy play in a "solid" back 4 I can't know for sure that he'd be solid defensively but I've seen enough to convince me that for £5m it would be worth the risk and I'd be quietly confident he would prove me right.
There's a dearth of decent left backs around at the moment and if we're not going to get Coentrao or Clichy I'd rather take a chance on Aurelio's fitness and Robinson because I'm not convinced by Izaguirre, Enrique et al.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45686.msg1347057#msg1347057 date=1307708903]
Molby - every Arsenal fan I know agrees with me.
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I know lots who don't Ryan, lived in Highbury for 8 years and was surrounded by Gooners, who are fairly moany bunch i might add, Clichy recieves some stick just like everybody else but not in a way which would make me think the fans didnt rate or like him...Just because you say it is so doesn't make it so but each to there own i spose....
We think each other to be wrong but no worries.
I quite like Clichy, I fucking hate Downing not everybody agrees with everybody etc etc etc...
Molby - every Arsenal fan I know agrees with me.
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I know lots who don't Ryan, lived in Highbury for 8 years and was surrounded by Gooners, who are fairly moany bunch i might add, Clichy recieves some stick just like everybody else but not in a way which would make me think the fans didnt rate or like him...Just because you say it is so doesn't make it so but each to there own i spose....
We think each other to be wrong but no worries.
I quite like Clichy, I fucking hate Downing not everybody agrees with everybody etc etc etc...
Haha some lad on RAWK suggested to Google the words "Clichy's mistake" and this is the results:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1SVED_ENUK421&q=clichy%27s+mistake&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1SVED_ENUK421&q=clichy%27s+mistake&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45686.msg1347046#msg1347046 date=1307708210]
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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Spot on.
Pesam - Gary's right, he's not a good defender. Its notbjudt that he's been regularly raped by quality wingers, it's the basics that he struggles with: positioning being the foremost. He's nearly always out of sync with the rest of the defense. Granted the other 3 usually aren't great, but Clichy is the ibvious weak link. He's woeful at reading and anticipating danger. I've watched him sometimes and sat in wonderment at how he plays in a top level team to be honest.
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Spot on.
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I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
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[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=45686.msg1347134#msg1347134 date=1307716554]
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
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His age has nothing to do with it .... his on-field performances (excellent) do.
FBs : Kelly, Johnson, Aurelio, Flanagan & Robinson .... and if that's not enough Wilson, Agger and Carra if absolutely necessary. There may be some injury prone players in there but I don't think FB was a weakness last season. As I said if we can't improve on Johnson & Kelly then I don't think we need to buy a squad fullback.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=45686.msg1347134#msg1347134 date=1307716554]
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
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His age has nothing to do with it .... his on-field performances (excellent) do.
FBs : Kelly, Johnson, Aurelio, Flanagan & Robinson .... and if that's not enough Wilson, Agger and Carra if absolutely necessary. There may be some injury prone players in there but I don't think FB was a weakness last season. As I said if we can't improve on Johnson & Kelly then I don't think we need to buy a squad fullback.
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[quote author=refugee link=topic=45686.msg1347139#msg1347139 date=1307716959]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=45686.msg1347134#msg1347134 date=1307716554]
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
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His age has nothing to do with it .... his on-field performances (excellent) do.
FBs : Kelly, Johnson, Aurelio, Flanagan & Robinson .... and if that's not enough Wilson, Agger and Carra if absolutely necessary. There may be some injury prone players in there but I don't think FB was a weakness last season. As I said if we can't improve on Johnson & Kelly then I don't think we need to buy a squad fullback.
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Age is very important as we still have no idea if he is going to play at a consistent level. Insua started well for us and then turned out to be shit. Even if he does play consistently well (which I believe he will), his injuries problems are an enormous problem and there is no reason to believe he wont get over them.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=45686.msg1347139#msg1347139 date=1307716959]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=45686.msg1347134#msg1347134 date=1307716554]
I really don't get the obsession with getting a LB. Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right is what we have to improve upon ..... if we can't do that then we have cover, though young, and I'd rather spend more on top quality signings for the wing, CB and a forward.
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Kelly is
a) A youngster himself (granted a fantastic one)
b) Incredibly injury prone.
We need a left back
[/quote]
His age has nothing to do with it .... his on-field performances (excellent) do.
FBs : Kelly, Johnson, Aurelio, Flanagan & Robinson .... and if that's not enough Wilson, Agger and Carra if absolutely necessary. There may be some injury prone players in there but I don't think FB was a weakness last season. As I said if we can't improve on Johnson & Kelly then I don't think we need to buy a squad fullback.
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Age is very important as we still have no idea if he is going to play at a consistent level. Insua started well for us and then turned out to be shit. Even if he does play consistently well (which I believe he will), his injuries problems are an enormous problem and there is no reason to believe he wont get over them.
[quote author=refugee link=topic=45686.msg1347143#msg1347143 date=1307717695] Even if he does play consistently well (which I believe he will), his injuries problems are an enormous problem and there is no reason to believe he wont get over them.
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There is also no empirical evidence to suggest that just because a player suffers a series of injuries then it's a trend. For every player for which that statement holds true there are a bunch that show it's not.
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There is also no empirical evidence to suggest that just because a player suffers a series of injuries then it's a trend. For every player for which that statement holds true there are a bunch that show it's not.
The left back singing is working out dificult isn't it? Baines would be my first choice selection but I presume that is a no go area. Pity because he's the pick of the bunch. Contraeo is too expensive and is possibly Madrid bound, there is doubts over Vargas' favoured position so that leaves us with Clichy, Enrique or the dude at Celtic.
had anyone heard of assou-ekotto when they signed him?
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Or Comolli can earn his corn and find us a decent player.
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Exactamundo.
Or Comolli can earn his corn and find us a decent player.
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Exactamundo.
Would love you to take Clichy off our hands if i trusted Wenger to sign a replacement. As has been said by ryan (i think) he's always out of sync with the rest of the defence. Always a yard in front or behind and will ruin the offside trap on countless occasions. His positioning, under a high diagonal in particular, is shocking. He's lightening quick which helps compensate for some of his major flaws but despite his pace and decent dribbling ability he's still not much of an attacking threat given that he cant cross!
I used to love him, but bar the odd spell, since the infamous Birmingham game (Eduardo/Gallas etc) he's been terrible. Strange, because i genuinely used to think he was one of the best left backs around. I suppose thats why plenty of managers would be willing to take a risk on him. A change of club might do him the world of good.
I used to love him, but bar the odd spell, since the infamous Birmingham game (Eduardo/Gallas etc) he's been terrible. Strange, because i genuinely used to think he was one of the best left backs around. I suppose thats why plenty of managers would be willing to take a risk on him. A change of club might do him the world of good.
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Would love you to take Clichy off our hands if i trusted Wenger to sign a replacement. As has been said by ryan (i think) he's always out of sync with the rest of the defence. Always a yard in front or behind and will ruin the offside trap on countless occasions. His positioning, under a high diagonal in particular, is shocking. He's lightening quick which helps compensate for some of his major flaws but despite his pace and decent dribbling ability he's still not much of an attacking threat given that he cant cross!
I used to love him, but bar the odd spell, since the infamous Birmingham game (Eduardo/Gallas etc) he's been terrible. Strange, because i genuinely used to think he was one of the best left backs around. I suppose thats why plenty of managers would be willing to take a risk on him. A change of club might do him the world of good.
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Find a replacement? Gibbs surely?
Would love you to take Clichy off our hands if i trusted Wenger to sign a replacement. As has been said by ryan (i think) he's always out of sync with the rest of the defence. Always a yard in front or behind and will ruin the offside trap on countless occasions. His positioning, under a high diagonal in particular, is shocking. He's lightening quick which helps compensate for some of his major flaws but despite his pace and decent dribbling ability he's still not much of an attacking threat given that he cant cross!
I used to love him, but bar the odd spell, since the infamous Birmingham game (Eduardo/Gallas etc) he's been terrible. Strange, because i genuinely used to think he was one of the best left backs around. I suppose thats why plenty of managers would be willing to take a risk on him. A change of club might do him the world of good.
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Find a replacement? Gibbs surely?
Hey gooner,
Haven't seen you round these parts in a while.
What is the story with the Arsenal?
They seem to be pretty quiet so far.
Are they waiting to see who goes out before deciding who comes in?
We have been like that for the last couple of seasons so I don't envy you.
Haven't seen you round these parts in a while.
What is the story with the Arsenal?
They seem to be pretty quiet so far.
Are they waiting to see who goes out before deciding who comes in?
We have been like that for the last couple of seasons so I don't envy you.
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Hey gooner,
Haven't seen you round these parts in a while.
What is the story with the Arsenal?
They seem to be pretty quiet so far.
Are they waiting to see who goes out before deciding who comes in?
We have been like that for the last couple of seasons so I don't envy you.
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Lots of talk that we're talking with Barca about Fabregas so i guess if thats true we'll make our moves once he leaves. Some people reckon Wenger is going to go back to 4-4-2 if we sell Cesc. Something i would favour but it would require quite a few transfers to make it work. Bit of a nightmare at the minute really would be great to know who is staying/going so we can concentrate on strengthening. Seems at the minute we're losing half a team!
@ILD id imagine Gibbs probably will be Clichys replacement but he's been very poor when he's played. I actually thought he would be first choice by the end of the season but he seems to possess some of the exact same flaws as Clichy, such as his positioning! We'd really need to sign a LB imo
Hey gooner,
Haven't seen you round these parts in a while.
What is the story with the Arsenal?
They seem to be pretty quiet so far.
Are they waiting to see who goes out before deciding who comes in?
We have been like that for the last couple of seasons so I don't envy you.
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Lots of talk that we're talking with Barca about Fabregas so i guess if thats true we'll make our moves once he leaves. Some people reckon Wenger is going to go back to 4-4-2 if we sell Cesc. Something i would favour but it would require quite a few transfers to make it work. Bit of a nightmare at the minute really would be great to know who is staying/going so we can concentrate on strengthening. Seems at the minute we're losing half a team!
@ILD id imagine Gibbs probably will be Clichys replacement but he's been very poor when he's played. I actually thought he would be first choice by the end of the season but he seems to possess some of the exact same flaws as Clichy, such as his positioning! We'd really need to sign a LB imo
There are very good arguments for signing him, and then of course to look elsewhere. He used to be one of the best full backs in the league, has that suddenly disapeared? Well, for the last 2 seasons he's been very up and down performancewise.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45686.msg1347190#msg1347190 date=1307725046]
There are very good arguments for signing him, and then of course to look elsewhere. He used to be one of the best full backs in the league, has that suddenly disapeared? Well, for the last 2 seasons he's been very up and down performancewise.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
[/quote]Probably just to drive down the price of Enrique. Aren't Newcastle supposed to be looking for £15m for him?
There are very good arguments for signing him, and then of course to look elsewhere. He used to be one of the best full backs in the league, has that suddenly disapeared? Well, for the last 2 seasons he's been very up and down performancewise.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
[/quote]Probably just to drive down the price of Enrique. Aren't Newcastle supposed to be looking for £15m for him?
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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That might be what's decided on a local level but if push came to shove the power would lie with Commoli and Ayre rather than Kenny - according to the Premier League Rules.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45686.msg1346986#msg1346986 date=1307704479]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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That might be what's decided on a local level but if push came to shove the power would lie with Commoli and Ayre rather than Kenny - according to the Premier League Rules.
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=45686.msg1347000#msg1347000 date=1307704872]
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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well, i for one can definitely see that working very efficiently indeed without causing any friction or resentment whatsoever.
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It does when you have grown ups working together.
[quote author=Binny link=topic=45686.msg1347000#msg1347000 date=1307704872]
[quote author=RolandG link=topic=45686.msg1346991#msg1346991 date=1307704591]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=45686.msg1346986#msg1346986 date=1307704479]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=45686.msg1346982#msg1346982 date=1307704345]
Of course he would, he picks the team. What would be the point in Camoli going out and signing a bunch of players for Kenny to never play them?!
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why do you need comolli at all then?
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Comolli confirmed that Kenny gets the final say on all players. I just cant be bothered to look for the article.
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Wasn't there a report saying transfer targets will be decided by three-man panel of Damien Comolli, the manager and chief executive?
Director of football, manager and chief executive can each veto a move.
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well, i for one can definitely see that working very efficiently indeed without causing any friction or resentment whatsoever.
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It does when you have grown ups working together.
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[quote author=Hansern link=topic=45686.msg1347190#msg1347190 date=1307725046]
There are very good arguments for signing him, and then of course to look elsewhere. He used to be one of the best full backs in the league, has that suddenly disapeared? Well, for the last 2 seasons he's been very up and down performancewise.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
[/quote]Probably just to drive down the price of Enrique. Aren't Newcastle supposed to be looking for £15m for him?
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Read a story the other day that he told Newcastle he would see out his final year and leave on a Bosman. Dont know if its true, apperantly Barca are interested aswell.
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There are very good arguments for signing him, and then of course to look elsewhere. He used to be one of the best full backs in the league, has that suddenly disapeared? Well, for the last 2 seasons he's been very up and down performancewise.
For Arsenals shit defence, they conceded 43 goals last season. And for him being a shite defender, he was the full back in the league with the most tackles.
For 5 mill £ it be worth the risk imho. Clarke has really improved our defence, and the best example is Johnson.
He's miles better than what we got and Robinson isnt ready yet.
I have a feeling this is all a smokescreen for someone else though, and I hope we're going after Cissokho or Baines.
But for 5 mill £ this is a very good deal that could turn great if he can rediscover his form from 2-3 seasons ago.
Class is permant form is temporary and all that shite.
[/quote]Probably just to drive down the price of Enrique. Aren't Newcastle supposed to be looking for £15m for him?
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Read a story the other day that he told Newcastle he would see out his final year and leave on a Bosman. Dont know if its true, apperantly Barca are interested aswell.
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