Well obviously his £116m fee is relevant, yes.
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Well obviously his £116m fee is relevant, yes.
This is absolutely fucking mental. We've bought the best player in Germany for the last two seasons and you're now comparing him to Elliott after four games.
also, I'd argue that Cole Palmer should watch Cole Palmer videos because his output since Christmas is three goals and three assists.
also, I'd argue that Cole Palmer should watch Cole Palmer videos because his output since Christmas is three goals and three assists.
Wasn’t Keita the best player in Germany at one point?
And Jadon Sancho was the best young winger in Europe.
When we’ve had ballers you can see early doors they are ballers. He’s been a damp squib.
Most of the forum took years to realise Bobby was good.
Yes and no. It's way too early to make a judgement but not too early to be slightly concerned.
I think it's probably relatively rare for a great player to have shown so little in his first 4 games.
Is it that rare? Or are we just hyper focused on Flo since he's ours and cost a fortune?
I don't know the answer, I'm asking genuinely.
Did players like David Silva, Bruno Fernandez, Viera, Yaya Toure, Kante, Essien, Ji-Sung, Modric, Matic, Rodri, Drogba, Petit, etc. (I'm thinking of foreign players who went on to excel in the premier league) all instantly show their class?
We've seen 251 minutes of Wirtz in the league.
Personally, I'll wait until he's had at least 20 games to find his feet before I expect too much, and a year before I can judge value for money.
£100m
Amended for accuracy.
I don't know the answer either but my hunch is it's fairly rare. It's definitely rare with our great players. Only really Bobby I can think of there. Maybe Fabinho?
£116m.
Yeah, but I think we've just been lucky rather than it being the norm.
I think he's a great player that will come good and be a stalwart for us over the years. However he's not set the team alite just yet.
A lot of this is that a great player slotting into an established team (e.g. City over the past few years) has a lot less adjusting to do whereas we have lost 3 forwards, Mo. is the worst version I've ever seen of him, our FBs have been rotated more than a rotisserie and Macca is a million miles off his usual self.
I'm sure once this team starts to gel and settle we'll see a much better version of Wirtz, maybe Isak will help in that regard too. i also expect him to be better against teams that don't sit so deep for most of the match, giving him a little more time and space when the play is less condensed. I did love his 3 twists and turns and shot yesterday - hopefully a portender.
£100m. We haven't won 4 x PL or CL yet and if we do then he was more than worth it.
None of this is a surprise either, or shouldn't be to anyone who actually thinks about the task facing Slot of knitting so many newbies together.
AND WE'RE STILL TOP OF THE LEAGUE, LADIES, BTW!
I get that the reported conditions for the extra fee seem unachievable but how many other fees does that apply to as well? Maybe Wirtz's are particularly unrealistic, but maybe a lot of fees are also structured like that too? And if that was the case then we should be discounting those fees too, in which case £100m for Wirtz would be being compared to lower fees across the board anyway. It's hard to know either way.
I agree. I think many fees nowadays have add ons but most are achievable because most teams aren't contending for the PL or CL. Maybe based on appearances for example. Those for Wirtz are a very very high bar and either we become the best LFC team of the modern era or we won't be paying out all of those add ons.
Can someone just come out and call Wirtz a flabby melt already, so we can pull them up on it for years to come?
£116m... I'm not making judgement until he's played 20,000 minutes for us at least....
The flabby melt.
The OG flabby melt assisted in his 5th start (1st as a CF) and goal plus assist in his 6th (again CF).
Plus Firmino obviously wasn't wanted at all by Rodgers. Slot is clearly trying to build the whole side around Wirtz.
he’s a skinny melt let’s get it right
