• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Isakly what we need

Maybe we need mandatory release clauses in contracts like in Spain. As self-serving as it sounds players should always be able to leave if they really want to - for the right price.
 
Maybe we need mandatory release clauses in contracts like in Spain. As self-serving as it sounds players should always be able to leave if they really want to - for the right price.

They set them for like a billion though, it’s not usually a reasonable realistic sum.
 
This time last year we signed a player who had fallen out with his club, trained alone & missed preseason ... and he scored a consolation goal in a cup final defeat. #HistoryRepeats
 
That's Messi isn't it? Generally they seem pretty reasonable.
Yeah not these days. As someone else said. Barca and Real set them unrealistically high.

Smaller clubs you may get the odd €150-200m too.

Gavi, Yamal, Pedri, Mbappe, Bellingham, Trent.. all €1bn+
 
According to Fabrizio Romano, Alexander-Arnold's release clause will be a whopping €1 BILLION.
(https://www.sportbible.com/football...-clause-real-madrid-liverpool-407549-20250530)

I think after Barca got stung when PSG met Neymar's release clause they have been setting them as high as they can get away with. Obviously agents will try to negotiate them down as much as possible

Well yeah but it still requires the player to sign the deal doesn't it. I still think it's worth doing because players like Isak are still signing deals without them and which require effectively going on strike to get out of. Although there's nothing stopping you having a rule that prevents such a high figure as well, if that was seen to be desirable. You could say max of some multiple of the current transfer record or of their wages or something.

The fundamental point is that it's not really an acceptable situation for a club to effectively "own" a player. Yes in the current system they need to have some kind of compensation for losing them in order to foster competition, but there has to be a balance. And at the moment that's basically having to be struck by players just throwing tantrums and upsetting the atmosphere etc. Generally it works sort of ok, but there's probably a better way of providing for it.
 
Yeah not these days. As someone else said. Barca and Real set them unrealistically high.

Smaller clubs you may get the odd €150-200m too.

Gavi, Yamal, Pedri, Mbappe, Bellingham, Trent.. all €1bn+

Well generally speaking it's not as issue for players at destination clubs like Real or Barca. Players leave those clubs when the clubs want, not when the players do.
 
Well yeah but it still requires the player to sign the deal doesn't it. I still think it's worth doing because players like Isak are still signing deals without them and which require effectively going on strike to get out of. Although there's nothing stopping you having a rule that prevents such a high figure as well, if that was seen to be desirable. You could say max of some multiple of the current transfer record or of their wages or something.

The fundamental point is that it's not really an acceptable situation for a club to effectively "own" a player. Yes in the current system they need to have some kind of compensation for losing them in order to foster competition, but there has to be a balance. And at the moment that's basically having to be struck by players just throwing tantrums and upsetting the atmosphere etc. Generally it works sort of ok, but there's probably a better way of providing for it.
I agree a little bit, but the players do have some control when signing the original contract. That is what Macca did with Brighton. They may have to accept a lower wage to get a release clause, but they are the ones signing the contract.

To be honest, Isak making a fuss puts me off. Who's to say he would not do the same to us in 3 years when Real turn his head. It is a character issue for me.
 
I agree a little bit, but the players do have some control when signing the original contract. That is what Macca did with Brighton. They may have to accept a lower wage to get a release clause, but they are the ones signing the contract.

To be honest, Isak making a fuss puts me off. Who's to say he would not do the same to us in 3 years when Real turn his head. It is a character issue for me.

That's kind of my point, though. Is it really a character issue? Or does he just very reasonably want to move to a more suitable club? The system kind of forces these players into this position imo.

Should he have had more foresight and insisted on a release clause in his original contract? Probably, but I still think he should be able to move if a club is offering huge money for him.
 
I agree a little bit, but the players do have some control when signing the original contract. That is what Macca did with Brighton. They may have to accept a lower wage to get a release clause, but they are the ones signing the contract.

To be honest, Isak making a fuss puts me off. Who's to say he would not do the same to us in 3 years when Real turn his head. It is a character issue for me.

It can easily be reframed into demonstrating how how keen and determined he is to play for us. VVD did no different. He was training alone for a number of weeks at Southampton, had 'secret' meetings with Klopp, and submitted a transfer request. His character has been deemed worthy of being club captain. Xabi forced a move out of Liverpool and we oved the man beforehand, and most still do. I don't think we can afford to be so principled when it comes to the top players. Isak is doing exactly what we tell him to do, so any issue you have with Isak, you will also have have an equal gripe with our club. For me it's a case of don't hate the players, hate the game. Ultimately we've been swindled out of Trent for nowt, so they'll be no tears for Newcastle for securing a record fee for their wantaway striker.
 
Liverpool and Newcastle now in talks over potential Isak transfer…

On Thursday lunchtime, Florian Plettenberg took to X with an update on Isak’s future, outlining that there’s an optimism within the Sweden international’s camp that the two clubs will reach an agreement.

The Sky Germany reporter posted: ‘Talks between Newcastle and Liverpool over Alexander Isak are progressing well. The player’s camp are very positive about the situation. Isak is hopeful that an agreement between the clubs can be reached. A record bid will be needed.
 
Alexander Isak is training alone at former club Real Sociedad amid continued uncertainty around his Newcastle United future.
 
I read somewhere today (forgot to copy /paste here) that Newcastle + Liverpool were amicably discussing terms. I reckon this gets done within 2 weeks.

No way with Issac already ostracised that this isn't done quickly.
 
Back
Top Bottom