Unfortunately we're not getting top class performances.
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Unfortunately we're not getting top class performances.
Probably, but zero in four?None of them are delivering top class performances every game.
So, what do we define as “success” and therefore not a disappointment for Wirtz?
Is 15 goal involvements a good starting point to say “successful”?
Would 20 goal involvements in the league be the point where he starts to hit “good”?
25 GI where he starts to become exceptional and over 30 a world class generational “we got him cheap” player?
Would less than 10 be an absolute disappointment?
For context, de Bruyne sat in the 15-25 GI range consistently when he didn’t miss have the season with injury and before he started to drop off in the final few years?
338. Soz to be pedantic.251 minutes
338. Soz to be pedantic.
Four games in and zero mentions in Momo’s MOTM. That’s the barometer we should all use.Probably, but zero in four?
League minutes?
Four games in and zero mentions in Momo’s MOTM. That’s the barometer we should all use.
He’ll be on loan at Napoli by the end of next season with us paying 90% of his wages.Wanna bet he's in the top 3 at the end of next season?
Fine, which one of our starters has played badly or been anonymous in all four of the first games?251 minutes
But yea. I’d take that bet. A Casio?
Fine, which one of our starters has played badly or been anonymous in all four of the first games?
You can say Salah...still got two goals and an assist.
Kerkez was good against Arsenal.
Macca played well against Bournemouth and he's had injuries.
Even Ekitike who is new to the league has two goals.
This discussion is doing my head in.
There's a super simple solution to this
We agree on a lot of things 😊I think the biggest surprise is that Modo and Dreamie agree on something.
We agree on a lot of things 😊
@Dreambeliever, can you confirm?
Well said. This is the kind of conversation that we should be having in January if it hasn't improved.I don't get the big deal here - yes it's super early days but also yes, he's been underwhelming so far. Where is the controversy?
It didn't look like a straightforward signing from the get go but was happy to be swept up with the hype.
He'll get time and patience but yeah there is pressure due to the price tag and hype... that's the game.
Ultimately the hope - putting aside numbers - is David Silva / Kevin De Bruyne levels of influence. By all accounts he's got the talent so transition to PL shouldn't be a problem. It's up to the coaching team to get the best out of everyone.
I don't get the big deal here - yes it's super early days but also yes, he's been underwhelming so far. Where is the controversy?
It didn't look like a straightforward signing from the get go but was happy to be swept up with the hype.
He'll get time and patience but yeah there is pressure due to the price tag and hype... that's the game.
Ultimately the hope - putting aside numbers - is David Silva / Kevin De Bruyne levels of influence. By all accounts he's got the talent so transition to PL shouldn't be a problem. It's up to the coaching team to get the best out of everyone.
Experience tells me that the goal posts will definitely be moved.Well said. This is the kind of conversation that we should be having in January if it hasn't improved.
Not after 4 games split by an International break.
What if he starts most games and we win the league and the CL but he only gets 6 assists and 3 goals?