We are going to go into a game against our main title rivals this weekend. I would shit myself starting our £110 million signing in that game.
Florian and the (Slot) Machine
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Come on mate - you can’t compare Wirtz to the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Viera or Keane - they’re completely different players.
David Silva is probably the best example, and is very comparable as a top attacking midfielder.
He’s clearly technically gifted, got great vision and sharp passing. He’s younger than Harvey Elliot and adapting to a new league and team in two tricky fixtures.
He’s maybe not quite settled as well as Ekitike, but much better than Kerkez who’s had 2 years to get used to the league at least.
He's a number 10, compare him to other number 10s - there are loads of number 10s built like him who've done wonders in the PL.
For me his issues so far have been sloppiness in possession and lack of sharpness, not physicality.
I am a bit worried about a lack of pace though. He looks really one paced sometimes. That was the one negative that really stood out when all his compilations started doing the rounds when we went in for him. I'm not sure we're ever going to see him slipping past defenders like he did in Germany, and that's a problem for the money we paid.
They were good and built like fucking units. This little string of piss is going to be destroyed.
He's fucking shite.
We don’t play with a 10 though, which in itself puts him on to a hiding to nothing. Like Elliott, he’s never going to physically challenge any of that Newcastle midfield today or most others in the league. He can look great skipping past one man but then gets done by the second.
We've not given him a chance. I don't mean the forum, i mean the way we're playing.
He looks dangerous when he gets the ball inetween the lines. He just doesnt get it that often because no one is moving (except him) so hes easy to track, and them he's got no one to pass to as their not moving.
Its on Slot to sort this out.
Then he'll come good.
He looks dangerous when he gets the ball inetween the lines. He just doesnt get it that often because no one is moving (except him) so hes easy to track, and them he's got no one to pass to as their not moving.
Its on Slot to sort this out.
Then he'll come good.
He plays in the attacking midfield position which Szob played last season. I call that number 10, but whatever. He's not playing in the heart of midfield like Keane and Vieira.
I would compare Slobby to where Keane and Viera would be playing. They were everywhere.
When we play with water carriers so that salah can ball out, sometimes, in certain games you were left feeling like, well, Jesus, we need more creativity in that position, for all the ball we have.
Then, you put a technically gifted lightweight kid there, and now you've got the creativity but you don't have the ball.
It's not shocking to me.
Then, you put a technically gifted lightweight kid there, and now you've got the creativity but you don't have the ball.
It's not shocking to me.
Anyway, we didn't buy him for that much for one season nor two. For him to do enough to make us better this season is asking a lot of him immediately, and the forwards around him to develop an understanding. The fact that we've not got anywhere near as good an outball also doesn't help him at all, nor the fact that our best midfield hasn't played.
Wirtz isn't like those players, he can't play in a midfield 2 like those could. He's far more of a forward than a midfielder too seeing as he played in a front 3 for Leverkusen and generally plays off the left for Germany.
Eze
Juan Mata
Oscar
Van der Vaart types.
Yep.
Basically we need Mac and Grav to stop getting all these bitches preggers and fuck off Mo to the bench for someone that can actually hold a ball for longer than 2 seconds.
So a pointless signing because we don’t play that way. And from the left when we have Ekitike and possibly Isak coming too.
He’s been a passenger and you can’t win shit with passengers.
It's for Arne to sort out, I don't see why we can't get him in around the 20 yard box more where he's lethal and can actually display his class......at the moment he's having to drop too deep to pick up the ball because we're fucking pussies at the back when it comes to playing through the lines.....how are we supposed to find him in the half spaces with players like Curtis fucking Jones in the team? Our passing and possession stats under Arne have taken a huge hit.....even less so when it comes to passes/possession in the final third.
Besides we needed to replace the creativity Trent provided 1 way or the other, I don't see why he can't be a game changer. He hasn't been great, then again it's been 3 games and the positive impact he'll have on games won't solely rest on his shoulders.
Paul Scholes.
Hopefully we don’t try to play him as a DM or midfield enforcer.
He’ll be fine - stop being Binomial.
Nobody can be me, they could try.....but even that's a task in itself. I am 1 of a kind.
This is true and equally the most insightful and sage-like thing you’ve ever said.
Last week, I think he was surprised by the speed and was caught taking too long or forcing passes into spaces that were already closing. This week he may have over adjusted and played it before anyone was ready to receive it. He’ll get there. Two very tough pressing sides to start the season.
You're talking about Fabio and his 'alternative' fonts yeah?
Arne is going to have to make a fundamental change to our formation for it to work. Going back to what Peter said earlier about him being a 10, we don’t play with one. He’s part of a midfield unit that is a 6 and two 8s. Mac and Slobby are box to box try to get physical. Mac doesn’t do it as well as Dom, but he does get stuck in.
You know what the premier league is like. Once a team shows you how it’s done, they all copy. Everyone will do what Bournemouth and Newcastle did to him. Get your spare CB and the DM to nudge him and watch him fold like a cheap deckchair.
Next up Arsenal. Then Burnley, Everton, Pslace, Chelsea and the scum. Which of those will give him time and space? None.
I think he fits in our system fine, the problem is we've transitioned from an all action run everywhere type of 10 to a half space and quick passes type. He's working nicely with Ekitike and he works nicely with Macca. Problem is , Salah has been fucking muck and gakpo is weirdly inconsistent with his decisions. Add in hes new to the league and we've played 2 difficult opponents
It'll be reet
It'll be reet
I'm willing to give him - and us overall - a bit of time. But we can't afford too much because we won't score late winners every match.
Really need to defend better as a unit. Too many individual mistakes at the back and the backline as a whole exposed far too much.
Really need to defend better as a unit. Too many individual mistakes at the back and the backline as a whole exposed far too much.
We're playing shite and winning. The hope is we start paying better
No argument. Getting the points on the board while we go through the growing pains is what counts.
But eventually we'll start leaking the points if we can't find the solutions.
Given the sheer number of signings we've made, this season was ALWAYS going to start as it has while we settle the new players in, and we're still winning. Calm down, ladies.
